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Jburk moved page Talk:Home to Talk:Old Home without leaving a redirect: Archiving for new home page

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	==Mediawiki software enhancements==		==Mediawiki software enhancements==

	I was able to configure a new Visual Editor for this wiki using an experimental plugin that runs on a Node.JS application using Heroku. This should make the wiki easier to maintain, especially for non-technical users that don't want to learn the Mediawiki codes. ~~I've noticed it does not work on Talk pages, and some other pages such as Marspedia:About, so I am looking into that.~~		I was able to configure a new Visual Editor for this wiki using an experimental plugin that runs on a Node.JS application using Heroku. This should make the wiki easier to maintain, especially for non-technical users that don't want to learn the Mediawiki codes.

	Also I have added some of the newer options & extensions available in Mediawiki such as [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RemexHtml RemexHtml Parser], [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CiteThisPage CiteThisPage], and ensuring things like [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions ParserFunctions] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] are working.		Also I have added some of the newer options & extensions available in Mediawiki such as [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RemexHtml RemexHtml Parser], [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CiteThisPage CiteThisPage], and ensuring things like [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions ParserFunctions] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] are working.

Jburk at 18:25, 3 October 2017

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	==Mediawiki software enhancements==		==Mediawiki software enhancements==

	I was able to configure a new Visual Editor for this wiki using an experimental plugin that runs on a Node.JS application using Heroku. This should make the wiki easier to maintain, especially for non-technical users that don't want to learn the Mediawiki codes. I've noticed it does not work on Talk pages, so I am looking into that.		I was able to configure a new Visual Editor for this wiki using an experimental plugin that runs on a Node.JS application using Heroku. This should make the wiki easier to maintain, especially for non-technical users that don't want to learn the Mediawiki codes. I've noticed it does not work on Talk pages, and some other pages such as Marspedia:About, so I am looking into that.

	Also I have added some of the newer options & extensions available in Mediawiki such as [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RemexHtml RemexHtml Parser], [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CiteThisPage CiteThisPage], and ensuring things like [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions ParserFunctions] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] are working.		Also I have added some of the newer options & extensions available in Mediawiki such as [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RemexHtml RemexHtml Parser], [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CiteThisPage CiteThisPage], and ensuring things like [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions ParserFunctions] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] are working.

Jburk at 18:18, 3 October 2017

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	== ~~Fountdation of an autonomous colony~~ ==		==Featured Article==

	Is the current FA going to stay on the Main Page forever? I swear is hasn't changed in the last 5 days. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 12:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)		Is the current FA going to stay on the Main Page forever? I swear is hasn't changed in the last 5 days. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 12:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
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	:::Nevermind, I figured it out. You guys put your heads together and decide which article you think should be featured and then clear it with Ian. I have this talk paged watched, so I'll know if you post your final decision here. I'll do the grunt work if Ian finds himself otherwise occupied. -- [[User:Jarogers2001\|Jarogers2001]] 08:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)		:::Nevermind, I figured it out. You guys put your heads together and decide which article you think should be featured and then clear it with Ian. I have this talk paged watched, so I'll know if you post your final decision here. I'll do the grunt work if Ian finds himself otherwise occupied. -- [[User:Jarogers2001\|Jarogers2001]] 08:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

	~~==Featured Article==~~
	I would like to nominate [[Water]] as the next featured article, although it might be useful to quickly go over it and the most recent results from the lander to make sure it's up to date... -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] 10:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)		I would like to nominate [[Water]] as the next featured article, although it might be useful to quickly go over it and the most recent results from the lander to make sure it's up to date... -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] 10:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
	:Good idea. The ''Interplanetary Internet'' may be replaced by an other article. How about something contemporary? Proposal: [[Mars One]] or [[Curiosity]]? We could also change the ''Featured article'' to ''Currently in the news'' or ''Hot spot'' or ''Most interesting'' or ''In focus'', which does not necessarily refer to the high quality of the article. It might help to attract readers (and authors) who are interested in contemporary stuff. -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 19:27, 22 November 2012 (UTC)		:Good idea. The ''Interplanetary Internet'' may be replaced by an other article. How about something contemporary? Proposal: [[Mars One]] or [[Curiosity]]? We could also change the ''Featured article'' to ''Currently in the news'' or ''Hot spot'' or ''Most interesting'' or ''In focus'', which does not necessarily refer to the high quality of the article. It might help to attract readers (and authors) who are interested in contemporary stuff. -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 19:27, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

Jburk: /* Featured Article */

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Jburk: /* Captcha */

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Captcha

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	Please disable the captcha. It is '''''EXTREMELY''''' annoying. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 13:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)		Please disable the captcha. It is '''''EXTREMELY''''' annoying. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 13:25, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
	:Possibly [[user:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] can disable it for registered users, but I have no idea how to do it. Perhaps it is not possible for the captchas to distinguish registered users from IPs. After all we have to find a good balance of usability and security. If we had no captchas at all, we would get flooded with a torrent of automated spam (as we experienced before the activation of the captchas). -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 18:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)		:Possibly [[user:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] can disable it for registered users, but I have no idea how to do it. Perhaps it is not possible for the captchas to distinguish registered users from IPs. After all we have to find a good balance of usability and security. If we had no captchas at all, we would get flooded with a torrent of automated spam (as we experienced before the activation of the captchas). -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 18:59, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

			The previous Captcha has been removed. Please report any problems with the newer set of extensions. So far they are preventing ALL spam.

			--[[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 19:16, 3 October 2017 (BST)

	== Fountdation of an autonomous colony ==		== Fountdation of an autonomous colony ==

Jburk: /* Marspedia Content License */

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Marspedia Content License

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	The GFDL namespace was created for the purpose of importing Wikipedia articles (this was before the one-time never-to-be-repeated situation that allowed Wikipedia to change its licence); it can be supplemented or replaced with a CC namespace to import Wikipedia content without breaking anything or betraying past contributors. -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] ([[User talk:Strangelv\|talk]]) 00:09, 3 September 2017 (BST)		The GFDL namespace was created for the purpose of importing Wikipedia articles (this was before the one-time never-to-be-repeated situation that allowed Wikipedia to change its licence); it can be supplemented or replaced with a CC namespace to import Wikipedia content without breaking anything or betraying past contributors. -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] ([[User talk:Strangelv\|talk]]) 00:09, 3 September 2017 (BST)


	Appreciate your comments. Let's discuss offline.		Appreciate your comments. Let's discuss offline.
	-- [[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 00:27, 3 September 2017 (BST)		-- [[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 00:27, 3 September 2017 (BST)


	==Spam Prevention==		==Spam Prevention==

Jburk: /* 2017 Discussions */

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2017 Discussions

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	=2017 ~~Discussions~~=		=2017 Updates=

	We're in the process of upgrading the wiki and redesigning the main page. You may see things change a bit over the next few weeks & months.		We're in the process of upgrading the wiki and redesigning the main page. You may see things change a bit over the next few weeks & months.
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	-- [[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 18:57, 30 August 2017 (BST)		-- [[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 18:57, 30 August 2017 (BST)




	=Older Discussions (Pre-2017)=		=Older Discussions (Pre-2017)=

Jburk at 18:02, 3 October 2017

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			== Suggestions to improve Marspedia ==

			Please post any suggestions you have to improve Marspedia using this section.


	=2017 Discussions=		=2017 Discussions=

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	-- [[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 00:27, 3 September 2017 (BST)		-- [[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 00:27, 3 September 2017 (BST)

	~~==Mediawiki software & Spam Prevention==~~

	Marspedia runs on Mediawiki (v1.29.0) and has recently been patched and several spam-related extensions added. This has not stopped the torrent of spam users & content that is created daily by botnets. Currently, there is a manual effort to keep the wiki free from spam every day. As part of this, if you sign up for a new account and make changes to the wiki, it's possible we will mistake your changes as spam. If this happens, please let me know immediately by adding to my [[User talk:Jburk\|talk page]] or sending me an [mailto:jburk@marssociety.org email].		==Spam Prevention==

	-- [[User:Jburk\|~~Jburk~~]] ([[~~User talk~~:~~Jburk\|talk~~]~~]) 18:57, 30 August 2017 (BST)~~		We were able to stop the torrent of spam users & content that is created daily by botnets, and did a large amount of cleanup of spam users and pages they created. There were over 12k users in the system as of the end of September when we were finally able to stop the torrent using a combination of configurations & plugins. If you signed up for a new account in the last couple of weeks, it's possible we assumed you were a spammer and removed you. If this happened to you, please let me know immediately by adding to my [[User talk:Jburk\|talk page]] or sending me an [mailto:jburk@marssociety.org email].

			--[[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 19:02, 3 October 2017 (BST)

	The extension [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:CheckUser CheckUser] can be used to identify and therefore block IP addresses of botnet nodes used to create garbage accounts. I've historically blocked identified bad IPs for 180 days -- more if the IP hasn't refreshed and is seen attacking again after 180 days. -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] ([[User talk:Strangelv\|talk]]) 00:19, 3 September 2017 (BST)		==Mediawiki software enhancements==

	~~Yes,~~ I ~~have been running CheckUser and blocking IPs~~ for ~~the last week~~. ~~Also have been doing BlockAndNuke and installed several other shared blacklist extensions~~. ~~Nothing is working~~ to ~~slow down what is coming in~~.		I was able to configure a new Visual Editor for this wiki using an experimental plugin that runs on a Node.JS application using Heroku. This should make the wiki easier to maintain, especially for non-technical users that don't want to learn the Mediawiki codes. I've noticed it does not work on Talk pages, so I am looking into that.
	~~-- [[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 00:29~~, ~~3 September 2017 (BST)~~

	==Mediawiki ~~software enhancements==~~		Also I have added some of the newer options & extensions available in Mediawiki such as [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RemexHtml RemexHtml Parser], [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CiteThisPage CiteThisPage], and ensuring things like [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions ParserFunctions] and [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] are working.

	~~I have added some of the newer options & extensions available in Mediawiki such as~~ [~~https~~:~~//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/RemexHtml RemexHtml Parser~~], [~~https~~:~~//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:CiteThisPage CiteThisPage~~]~~, and ensuring things like [https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserFunctions ParserFunctions~~] ~~and [https~~:~~//www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] are working. I am currently evaluating a newer editor as well.~~		--[[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 19:02, 3 October 2017 (BST)

	~~-- [[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 19:17, 30 August 2017 (BST)~~
	==Wiki Design==		==Wiki Design==

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	:Dear PPark, I am glad there are people like you all over the world, sharing the same enthusiasm to plan human settlements in places beyond the limits of Earth. Certainly we are interested in networking with your program "Independent planetary settlements". I'm going right ahead to create first links on the new article page [[IPS]]. Welcome aboard! -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 20:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)		:Dear PPark, I am glad there are people like you all over the world, sharing the same enthusiasm to plan human settlements in places beyond the limits of Earth. Certainly we are interested in networking with your program "Independent planetary settlements". I'm going right ahead to create first links on the new article page [[IPS]]. Welcome aboard! -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 20:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

	~~== Suggestions to improve Marspedia ==~~

	~~Please post any suggestions you have to improve Marspedia.~~

Jburk: /* Suggestions to improve Marspedia */ new section

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	:Dear PPark, I am glad there are people like you all over the world, sharing the same enthusiasm to plan human settlements in places beyond the limits of Earth. Certainly we are interested in networking with your program "Independent planetary settlements". I'm going right ahead to create first links on the new article page [[IPS]]. Welcome aboard! -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 20:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)		:Dear PPark, I am glad there are people like you all over the world, sharing the same enthusiasm to plan human settlements in places beyond the limits of Earth. Certainly we are interested in networking with your program "Independent planetary settlements". I'm going right ahead to create first links on the new article page [[IPS]]. Welcome aboard! -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 20:13, 17 February 2010 (UTC)

			== Suggestions to improve Marspedia ==

			Please post any suggestions you have to improve Marspedia.

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	== ~~Fountdation of an autonomous colony~~ ==		==Featured Article==

	Is the current FA going to stay on the Main Page forever? I swear is hasn't changed in the last 5 days. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 12:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)		Is the current FA going to stay on the Main Page forever? I swear is hasn't changed in the last 5 days. [[User:T.Neo\|T.Neo]] 12:44, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
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	:::Nevermind, I figured it out. You guys put your heads together and decide which article you think should be featured and then clear it with Ian. I have this talk paged watched, so I'll know if you post your final decision here. I'll do the grunt work if Ian finds himself otherwise occupied. -- [[User:Jarogers2001\|Jarogers2001]] 08:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)		:::Nevermind, I figured it out. You guys put your heads together and decide which article you think should be featured and then clear it with Ian. I have this talk paged watched, so I'll know if you post your final decision here. I'll do the grunt work if Ian finds himself otherwise occupied. -- [[User:Jarogers2001\|Jarogers2001]] 08:43, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

	~~==Featured Article==~~
	I would like to nominate [[Water]] as the next featured article, although it might be useful to quickly go over it and the most recent results from the lander to make sure it's up to date... -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] 10:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)		I would like to nominate [[Water]] as the next featured article, although it might be useful to quickly go over it and the most recent results from the lander to make sure it's up to date... -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] 10:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
	:Good idea. The ''Interplanetary Internet'' may be replaced by an other article. How about something contemporary? Proposal: [[Mars One]] or [[Curiosity]]? We could also change the ''Featured article'' to ''Currently in the news'' or ''Hot spot'' or ''Most interesting'' or ''In focus'', which does not necessarily refer to the high quality of the article. It might help to attract readers (and authors) who are interested in contemporary stuff. -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 19:27, 22 November 2012 (UTC)		:Good idea. The ''Interplanetary Internet'' may be replaced by an other article. How about something contemporary? Proposal: [[Mars One]] or [[Curiosity]]? We could also change the ''Featured article'' to ''Currently in the news'' or ''Hot spot'' or ''Most interesting'' or ''In focus'', which does not necessarily refer to the high quality of the article. It might help to attract readers (and authors) who are interested in contemporary stuff. -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 19:27, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

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	I would like to nominate [[Water]] as the next featured article, although it might be useful to quickly go over it and the most recent results from the lander to make sure it's up to date... -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] 10:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)		I would like to nominate [[Water]] as the next featured article, although it might be useful to quickly go over it and the most recent results from the lander to make sure it's up to date... -- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] 10:51, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
	:Good idea. The ''Interplanetary Internet'' may be replaced by an other article. How about something contemporary? Proposal: [[Mars One]] or [[Curiosity]]? We could also change the ''Featured article'' to ''Currently in the news'' or ''Hot spot'' or ''Most interesting'' or ''In focus'', which does not necessarily refer to the high quality of the article. It might help to attract readers (and authors) who are interested in contemporary stuff. -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 19:27, 22 November 2012 (UTC)		:Good idea. The ''Interplanetary Internet'' may be replaced by an other article. How about something contemporary? Proposal: [[Mars One]] or [[Curiosity]]? We could also change the ''Featured article'' to ''Currently in the news'' or ''Hot spot'' or ''Most interesting'' or ''In focus'', which does not necessarily refer to the high quality of the article. It might help to attract readers (and authors) who are interested in contemporary stuff. -- [[User:Rfc\|Rfc]] 19:27, 22 November 2012 (UTC)

			Since the featured article had not been changed in several years, I changed it to Mars 2020. --[[User:Jburk\|Jburk]] ([[User talk:Jburk\|talk]]) 19:18, 3 October 2017 (BST)

	==Promotion==		==Promotion==