Talk:Semi-major axis - Revision history

Strangelv: My apologies; revised known users list now in use

2013-02-20T17:03:11Z

My apologies; revised known users list now in use

Farred: /* The relation between energy and semimajor axis */ talk

2013-02-20T15:07:59Z

The relation between energy and semimajor axis: talk

Farred: /* The relation between energy and semimajor axis */ talk

2013-02-20T13:50:03Z

The relation between energy and semimajor axis: talk

Farred: /* The relation between energy and semimajor axis */ talk

2013-02-20T13:43:11Z

The relation between energy and semimajor axis: talk

105.225.185.57 at 05:47, 20 February 2013

2013-02-20T05:47:24Z

Farred: /* The relation between energy and semimajor axis */ add puntuation

2013-02-19T23:10:54Z

The relation between energy and semimajor axis: add puntuation

Farred: talk

2013-02-19T22:56:58Z

talk

105.225.185.63: /* The relation between energy and semimajor axis */

2013-02-19T07:27:19Z

The relation between energy and semimajor axis

105.225.185.63: /* The relation between energy and semimajor axis */

2013-02-19T07:25:34Z

The relation between energy and semimajor axis

Farred: talk

2013-02-19T05:55:51Z

talk

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	I have seen a version of <nowiki>[[Indirect reduction of steel]]</nowiki> that has the spam links in a border at the bottom of the page. It is a version of the redirect from [[Pig Iron]]. The address is the same, <nowiki>[http://www.marspedia.org/index.php?title=Pig_iron]</nowiki>, but I can not restore the spam on such pages once I close the page. It seems to be a temporary and undocumented page modification from some malware on the server. I suppose that that is what led WHUMP to block ChristiaanK. The same malware could cause WHUMP to block anyone who makes an edit. The occurrence does not seem to be predictable. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 15:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)		I have seen a version of <nowiki>[[Indirect reduction of steel]]</nowiki> that has the spam links in a border at the bottom of the page. It is a version of the redirect from [[Pig Iron]]. The address is the same, <nowiki>[http://www.marspedia.org/index.php?title=Pig_iron]</nowiki>, but I can not restore the spam on such pages once I close the page. It seems to be a temporary and undocumented page modification from some malware on the server. I suppose that that is what led WHUMP to block ChristiaanK. The same malware could cause WHUMP to block anyone who makes an edit. The occurrence does not seem to be predictable. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 15:07, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
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		+	==Automated Blunder==
		+	Eep! Sorry about the false positive. I've just rewvised WHUMP (which is still something of a kludge) to add ChristiaanK to the known user list. It shouldn't ban you again, but I must admit I don't know averyone who posts here on any sort of recurring basis. If I had an up to date list of everyone who posts to any of the space wikis I could add them to the known users list and hopefully reduce the risk of additional farse positives.
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		+	What was pasted that set off the false positive? Is the exact text and markup still available?
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		+	My ability to keep up with wikis has been rather disappointing for the past several months -- the most I've been able to do is try to keep WHUMP running on each wiki I have it set up to run on (and then it crashes and a bunch of stuff accumulates, then there's the stuff it's not sure enough about that also accumulates and so on).
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		+	Thank you for the additional information about the hack attack. I'll at least try to se if I can get that past along at some point. Right now we're scrambling to try to reach a deadline to have a new Moon Society website on a new hosting provider. The wikis are likely to get migrated to the new provider soon after that.
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		+	I somehow failed to notice that the version running on the space wikis is dated in September. The one I run on the political wiki that belongs to a certian political party has been updated several times since, although where I left off was a major overhaul that's still not ready. ...And every change tends to make it more aggressive as I try to let less and less garbage get through. The political wiki gets hit by well over 1000 attacks a day right now, and I don't have server access -- it's the situation WHUMP was created to try to put a dent in. That it's easily adapted for the space wikis has ben my attempt to compensate for not being up to the task of getting better security provisions in place here where I do have server access. Although as a higher priority Exodictionary is down (after the recent server change on DreamHost) and needs to get brought back up. Somehow.
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		+	My apologies that I've been unable to keep up.
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		+	-- [[User:Strangelv\|Strangelv]] 17:03, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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 :::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page.  I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it.  I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account.  I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]].  Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more.  - [[User:Farred|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 ::::::I think it's automated. Anyway, is it possible for you to unban me and set WHUMP not to auto-ban me until this is sorted out? It's kinda annoying to change my IP after every edit :) (ChristiaanK) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.57|105.225.185.57]] 05:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
 I am sorry for being so slow.  I did not get any special instruction when given administrator powers.  I have unblocked you now.  I should have selected the show bots option on recent changes and then linked to the block log from one of WHUMP's blocks to get access to unblocking you.  Instead I linked to the block User:ChristiaanK page and got the message that you were already blocked.  I could unblock you from there.  I just had not been thinking about unblocking because I have never done that before.  I do not know how to adjust the settings for WHUMP, sorry.  - [[User:Farred|Farred]] 13:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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 :::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page.  I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it.  I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account.  I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]].  Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more.  - [[User:Farred|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 ::::::I think it's automated. Anyway, is it possible for you to unban me and set WHUMP not to auto-ban me until this is sorted out? It's kinda annoying to change my IP after every edit :) (ChristiaanK) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.57|105.225.185.57]] 05:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
-I am sorry for being so slow.  I did not get any special instruction when given administrator powers.  I have unblocked you now.  I should have selected the show bots option on recent changes and then linked to the block log from one of WHUMP's blocks to get access to unblocking you.  Instead I linked to the block User:ChristiaanK page and got the message that you were already blocked.  I could unblock you from there.  I just had not been thinking about unblocking because I have never done that before.  - [[User:Farred|Farred]] 13:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
+I am sorry for being so slow.  I did not get any special instruction when given administrator powers.  I have unblocked you now.  I should have selected the show bots option on recent changes and then linked to the block log from one of WHUMP's blocks to get access to unblocking you.  Instead I linked to the block User:ChristiaanK page and got the message that you were already blocked.  I could unblock you from there.  I just had not been thinking about unblocking because I have never done that before.  I do not know how to adjust the settings for WHUMP, sorry.  - [[User:Farred|Farred]] 13:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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	:::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page. I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it. I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account. I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]]. Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		:::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page. I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it. I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account. I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]]. Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
	::::::I think it's automated. Anyway, is it possible for you to unban me and set WHUMP not to auto-ban me until this is sorted out? It's kinda annoying to change my IP after every edit :) (ChristiaanK) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.57\|105.225.185.57]] 05:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)		::::::I think it's automated. Anyway, is it possible for you to unban me and set WHUMP not to auto-ban me until this is sorted out? It's kinda annoying to change my IP after every edit :) (ChristiaanK) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.57\|105.225.185.57]] 05:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	I am sorry for being so slow. I did not get any special instruction when given administrator powers. I have unblocked you now. I should have selected the show bots option on recent changes and then linked to the block log from one of WHUMP's blocks to get access to unblocking you. Instead I linked to the block User:ChristiaanK page and got the message that you were already blocked. I could unblock you from there. I just had not been thinking about unblocking because I have never done that before. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 13:43, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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	::::::I now see the spam links here. [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		::::::I now see the spam links here. [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page. I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it. I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account. I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]]. Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		:::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page. I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it. I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account. I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]]. Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	::::::I think it's automated. Anyway, is it possible for you to unban me and set WHUMP not to auto-ban me until this is sorted out? It's kinda annoying to change my IP after every edit :) (ChristiaanK) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.57\|105.225.185.57]] 05:47, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

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 :::::It seems I've been banned by a bot. Who are the active admins? Do you know if these spam links were only with pages I edited? I wouldn't automatically assume that FF is immune to the nasty. Also, I couldn't get the site to send me a verification email (and now it's come back to bite me.) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63|105.225.185.63]] 07:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
 ::::::I now see the spam links here. [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63|105.225.185.63]] 07:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
-:::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page.  I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it.  I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account.  I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]]  Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more.  - [[User:Farred|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
+:::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page.  I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it.  I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account.  I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]].  Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more.  - [[User:Farred|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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	:::::It seems I've been banned by a bot. Who are the active admins? Do you know if these spam links were only with pages I edited? I wouldn't automatically assume that FF is immune to the nasty. Also, I couldn't get the site to send me a verification email (and now it's come back to bite me.) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		:::::It seems I've been banned by a bot. Who are the active admins? Do you know if these spam links were only with pages I edited? I wouldn't automatically assume that FF is immune to the nasty. Also, I couldn't get the site to send me a verification email (and now it's come back to bite me.) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
	::::::I now see the spam links here. [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		::::::I now see the spam links here. [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	:::::I do not know who is responding to me on this talk page. I think the spam links are added to pages immediately after edits but do not appear when the page is later accessed without editing it. I do not think the spam is limited to edits from any one account. I am an administrator as are [[Spriditis]] and [[Strangelv]] Maybe now the spammers have been alerted that someone is looking for them and will hide and not bother us any more. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 22:56, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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	::::I have noticed two versions of the <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki> page on Marspedia. They both have the address: <nowiki>http://www.marspedia.org/index.php?title=Alumina</nowiki>. On the normal page if I start from the page address window and tab seven positions to high-light the <nowiki>[[mineral]]</nowiki> link then shift of tab seven positions to return to the address window, the eighth shift of tab high-lights the disclamer link. On the corrupted version using the same process the eighth shift of tab high-lights a spam link, in particular <nowiki>http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=high-on-miagra&yo=1 and the thirteenth shift of tab high-lights a "where can i get viagra in London" button linked to http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=where-can-i-get-viagra-in-london&yo=1</nowiki>. I hope someone can use this information to stop the spammers. They may have something to do with the poor opperation of the server. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 05:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		::::I have noticed two versions of the <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki> page on Marspedia. They both have the address: <nowiki>http://www.marspedia.org/index.php?title=Alumina</nowiki>. On the normal page if I start from the page address window and tab seven positions to high-light the <nowiki>[[mineral]]</nowiki> link then shift of tab seven positions to return to the address window, the eighth shift of tab high-lights the disclamer link. On the corrupted version using the same process the eighth shift of tab high-lights a spam link, in particular <nowiki>http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=high-on-miagra&yo=1 and the thirteenth shift of tab high-lights a "where can i get viagra in London" button linked to http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=where-can-i-get-viagra-in-london&yo=1</nowiki>. I hope someone can use this information to stop the spammers. They may have something to do with the poor opperation of the server. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 05:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
	:::::It seems I've been banned by a bot. Who are the active admins? Do you know if these spam links were only with pages I edited? I wouldn't automatically assume that FF is immune to the nasty. Also, I couldn't get the site to send me a verification email (and now it's come back to bite me.) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		:::::It seems I've been banned by a bot. Who are the active admins? Do you know if these spam links were only with pages I edited? I wouldn't automatically assume that FF is immune to the nasty. Also, I couldn't get the site to send me a verification email (and now it's come back to bite me.) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	::::::I now see the spam links here. [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:27, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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	::::I noticed the ephemeral spam links again at the bottom of the page when I edited <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki>. I often navigate using tab and shift of tab to move the selected link before pressing enter instead of clicking on a link with the mouse. This might have something to do with my seeing the spam links and others not seeing them. I do not suppose that such spam links appeared at the bottom of the pages when you edited them. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 04:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		::::I noticed the ephemeral spam links again at the bottom of the page when I edited <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki>. I often navigate using tab and shift of tab to move the selected link before pressing enter instead of clicking on a link with the mouse. This might have something to do with my seeing the spam links and others not seeing them. I do not suppose that such spam links appeared at the bottom of the pages when you edited them. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 04:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
	::::I have noticed two versions of the <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki> page on Marspedia. They both have the address: <nowiki>http://www.marspedia.org/index.php?title=Alumina</nowiki>. On the normal page if I start from the page address window and tab seven positions to high-light the <nowiki>[[mineral]]</nowiki> link then shift of tab seven positions to return to the address window, the eighth shift of tab high-lights the disclamer link. On the corrupted version using the same process the eighth shift of tab high-lights a spam link, in particular <nowiki>http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=high-on-miagra&yo=1 and the thirteenth shift of tab high-lights a "where can i get viagra in London" button linked to http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=where-can-i-get-viagra-in-london&yo=1</nowiki>. I hope someone can use this information to stop the spammers. They may have something to do with the poor opperation of the server. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 05:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		::::I have noticed two versions of the <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki> page on Marspedia. They both have the address: <nowiki>http://www.marspedia.org/index.php?title=Alumina</nowiki>. On the normal page if I start from the page address window and tab seven positions to high-light the <nowiki>[[mineral]]</nowiki> link then shift of tab seven positions to return to the address window, the eighth shift of tab high-lights the disclamer link. On the corrupted version using the same process the eighth shift of tab high-lights a spam link, in particular <nowiki>http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=high-on-miagra&yo=1 and the thirteenth shift of tab high-lights a "where can i get viagra in London" button linked to http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=where-can-i-get-viagra-in-london&yo=1</nowiki>. I hope someone can use this information to stop the spammers. They may have something to do with the poor opperation of the server. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 05:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	:::::It seems I've been banned by a bot. Who are the active admins? Do you know if these spam links were only with pages I edited? I wouldn't automatically assume that FF is immune to the nasty. Also, I couldn't get the site to send me a verification email (and now it's come back to bite me.) [[Special:Contributions/105.225.185.63\|105.225.185.63]] 07:25, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

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	::::I am sorry to be so long in responding to you. I do not know why there are server problems. I have noticed some ephemeral spam links in the past and suspected that they might be related to some malware on the server, but I have not been able to pin them down and I do not see them lately. I am impressed by the good work that you do and hope I can help from time to time. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 04:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		::::I am sorry to be so long in responding to you. I do not know why there are server problems. I have noticed some ephemeral spam links in the past and suspected that they might be related to some malware on the server, but I have not been able to pin them down and I do not see them lately. I am impressed by the good work that you do and hope I can help from time to time. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 04:31, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
	::::I noticed the ephemeral spam links again at the bottom of the page when I edited <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki>. I often navigate using tab and shift of tab to move the selected link before pressing enter instead of clicking on a link with the mouse. This might have something to do with my seeing the spam links and others not seeing them. I do not suppose that such spam links appeared at the bottom of the pages when you edited them. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 04:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)		::::I noticed the ephemeral spam links again at the bottom of the page when I edited <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki>. I often navigate using tab and shift of tab to move the selected link before pressing enter instead of clicking on a link with the mouse. This might have something to do with my seeing the spam links and others not seeing them. I do not suppose that such spam links appeared at the bottom of the pages when you edited them. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 04:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
		+	::::I have noticed two versions of the <nowiki>[[Alumina]]</nowiki> page on Marspedia. They both have the address: <nowiki>http://www.marspedia.org/index.php?title=Alumina</nowiki>. On the normal page if I start from the page address window and tab seven positions to high-light the <nowiki>[[mineral]]</nowiki> link then shift of tab seven positions to return to the address window, the eighth shift of tab high-lights the disclamer link. On the corrupted version using the same process the eighth shift of tab high-lights a spam link, in particular <nowiki>http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=high-on-miagra&yo=1 and the thirteenth shift of tab high-lights a "where can i get viagra in London" button linked to http://www.hcs.harvard.edu/~habic/site/lang.php?cuz=where-can-i-get-viagra-in-london&yo=1</nowiki>. I hope someone can use this information to stop the spammers. They may have something to do with the poor opperation of the server. - [[User:Farred\|Farred]] 05:55, 19 February 2013 (UTC)