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Hi PPark, your edits in the article [[Independent Planetary Settlements]] are great! This gives a good presentation of the IPS project. However, I have done a little layout enhancement. How do you find that? And there is another problem: The referenced web sites are all in Russian language, which is not useful to most Marspedia users and readers. Are there English language web sites of the IPS project available? Can you arrange to make them on astronet.ru or innovaterussia.ru? -- [[User:Rfc|Rfc]] 07:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
 
Hi PPark, your edits in the article [[Independent Planetary Settlements]] are great! This gives a good presentation of the IPS project. However, I have done a little layout enhancement. How do you find that? And there is another problem: The referenced web sites are all in Russian language, which is not useful to most Marspedia users and readers. Are there English language web sites of the IPS project available? Can you arrange to make them on astronet.ru or innovaterussia.ru? -- [[User:Rfc|Rfc]] 07:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
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* Thanks, your enhancement is fine. As to primary sources: we plan to place in the near future transfer of the detailed program document "Otherwise continent". --[[User:PPark|PPark]] 15:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
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:::You have done a lot of work here, which I extraordinarily appreciate. I whole bunch of excellent ideas! However, please let me give you some hints:
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:::# Marspedia is an ''English only'' site. This is a little different from Wikipedia. In our current development step we can not afford any translation work to fully support several languages. All our readers can understand English, but most readers can not understand Russian as well as Spanish, French or Chinese. I myself am German, but I am obliged to work strictly in English here on Marspedia. I have seen some of your uploaded files with Russian filenames and some with Russian contents. We have no problem with some Russian symbols as part of a logo or similar, but we have a problem with those files. It's best to delete them, I'm afraid. I would be pleased to see English ones instead, because I am sure they bear valuable contents. As you do not have permission to delete files yourself, you may nominate those files on the [[Deletion]] page. Some sysop will then delete them.
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:::# Unfortunately, we do not have much of a tutorial here on Marspedia, but it is sometimes really helpful to use the help pages of Wikipedia, because they use the same wiki engine. [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tutorial_(Formatting)] is a good page to start with. Also very useful: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Cheatsheet].
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:::# Marspedia is, like every other web page, subject to copyright law. This requires a note of origin of any contents, especially of uploaded files. Imported contents may even require a permission of the originator. Please see also the ''NOTICE'' on Marspedia's [[Main Page]]. You might find it helpful to look at the page of other pictures for an example.
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:::# I have the impression that your text edits are a kind of ''copy'' of an existing text, which also requires a note of origin. Generally, the articles on Marspedia are not meant to be just ''copies'' of existing documents. Instead, they are creations of Marspedia's authors. It is perfectly fine in an article to reference to external documents, web pages, etc. and to illustrate the articles with uploaded files. If [[Otherwise Continent' Concept]] is such a (translated) copy of ''ИНОЙ_КОНТИНЕНТ'' then this text should be placed on the web space of the original project, and a Marspedia article may introduce the project. A link should be placed inside the Marspedia article, pointing to the external project or to documents inside the external project.
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:::Please be not discouraged by those hints. Your edits here on Marspedia are not in vain, and I am sure, they can be restructured according to the rules with not too much effort. Again, I extraordinarily appreciate your work here. Hopefully, we can reach our goals together. Cheers! -- [[User:Rfc|Rfc]] 20:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
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::::* Hi Rfc, it is very grateful for your recommendations. Work on references will be conducted, but I am afflicted that the template for footnotes on this wiki-portal does not work also necessary comments remain invisible. --[[User:PPark|PPark]] 21:06, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
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:::Hi PPark, This is not exactly what I meant. I will try to put it more precise for you:
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:::# The only allowed language on Marspedia is ''English''. Please remove all Russian words from the article. I am going to [[Deletion|nominate]] some of your uploaded files for deletion because of their Russian contents, e.g. file ''CashFlow OtherContin.gif'', ''TotalProfit OtherContin.gif'', etc. and because of their Cyrillic filenames, e.g. file ''ГечвоК морфология.gif '', etc.
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:::# Please insert a copyright note on the page of your uploaded files, e.g. file ''Contingent OtherContin super.gif''. You can find an example how to do that on the page of [[:File:Raw food mix.jpg]] or [[:File:76002main marshabitat.jpg]].
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:::# Please rework the article [[Otherwise Continent' Concept]]. The article must not be a pure translation of an existing Russian document. The article may be a mere introduction to that program.
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:::If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. I will help you doing the rework if you wish. -- [[User:Rfc|Rfc]] 16:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
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:PPark, I can only assume that you are talking about "spin-up technology."  Your current translation software is inadequate for the task of overcoming the Russian English language barrier.  Please use better software so that we may communicate. -- PPark, я могу только предположить, что вы говорите о "спин-вверх технологии". Ваша текущая программа перевода является недостаточным для выполнения задачи по преодолению Русский Английский языковой барьер. Пожалуйста, используйте лучшее программное обеспечение, чтобы мы могли общаться. Этот перевод был сделать с помощью Google Translate.[http://translate.google.com/#ru|en|] -- PPark, я могу только предположить, что вы говорите о "спин-вверх технологии". Ваша текущая программа перевода является недостаточным для выполнения задачи по преодолению Русский Английский языковой барьер. Пожалуйста, используйте лучшее программное обеспечение, чтобы мы могли общаться. Этот перевод был WordMonkey сделать с помощью переводчика. -- [[User:Jarogers2001|Jarogers2001]] 00:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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:PPark, please place the Russian version of your article [[Otherwise Continent' Concept]] at [[Otherwise Continent' Concept/ru|this url]].  I will attempt to read it using GoogleTranslate.  We seem to be having issues with the language barrier.  I apologize for any confusion.  -  PPark, пожалуйста, место русскую версию Вашей статьи [[Otherwise Continent' Concept]] на [[Otherwise Continent' Concept/ru|Этот URL]]. Я пытался читать его с помощью GoogleTranslate. Мы, кажется, возникают проблемы с языковым барьером. Я приношу свои извинения за причиненные неудобства. -- [[User:Jarogers2001|Jarogers2001]] 01:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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:: Thanks, please follow [http://ru.vlab.wikia.com/wiki/%D0%98%D0%BD%D0%BE%D0%B9_%D0%9A%D0%BE%D0%BD%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%BD%D1%82#.D0.92.D0.B8.D0.B4.D1.8B_.D0.90.D0.9F.D0.9F  to the Russian version of the  Otherwise Continent' Concept]--[[User:PPark|PPark]] 16:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
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==Contribution copyright status==
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You've made contributions to Marspedia between 1 January and 20 June 2012, a period where there is a problem with the rules for the main namespace, specifically [[Unknown "zemlyanstvo”]].  Do you officially allow your contributions to be released to the public domain? ...And by any chance are you the one who contributed anonymously to [[Autonomous planetary settlement]] from 174.31.99.237? Otherwise we may need to revert those helpful edits. -- [[User:Strangelv|Strangelv]] 02:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
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Latest revision as of 23:52, 13 April 2015

References to Russian web sites

Hi PPark, your edits in the article Independent Planetary Settlements are great! This gives a good presentation of the IPS project. However, I have done a little layout enhancement. How do you find that? And there is another problem: The referenced web sites are all in Russian language, which is not useful to most Marspedia users and readers. Are there English language web sites of the IPS project available? Can you arrange to make them on astronet.ru or innovaterussia.ru? -- Rfc 07:28, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

  • Thanks, your enhancement is fine. As to primary sources: we plan to place in the near future transfer of the detailed program document "Otherwise continent". --PPark 15:53, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
You have done a lot of work here, which I extraordinarily appreciate. I whole bunch of excellent ideas! However, please let me give you some hints:
  1. Marspedia is an English only site. This is a little different from Wikipedia. In our current development step we can not afford any translation work to fully support several languages. All our readers can understand English, but most readers can not understand Russian as well as Spanish, French or Chinese. I myself am German, but I am obliged to work strictly in English here on Marspedia. I have seen some of your uploaded files with Russian filenames and some with Russian contents. We have no problem with some Russian symbols as part of a logo or similar, but we have a problem with those files. It's best to delete them, I'm afraid. I would be pleased to see English ones instead, because I am sure they bear valuable contents. As you do not have permission to delete files yourself, you may nominate those files on the Deletion page. Some sysop will then delete them.
  2. Unfortunately, we do not have much of a tutorial here on Marspedia, but it is sometimes really helpful to use the help pages of Wikipedia, because they use the same wiki engine. [1] is a good page to start with. Also very useful: [2].
  3. Marspedia is, like every other web page, subject to copyright law. This requires a note of origin of any contents, especially of uploaded files. Imported contents may even require a permission of the originator. Please see also the NOTICE on Marspedia's Main Page. You might find it helpful to look at the page of other pictures for an example.
  4. I have the impression that your text edits are a kind of copy of an existing text, which also requires a note of origin. Generally, the articles on Marspedia are not meant to be just copies of existing documents. Instead, they are creations of Marspedia's authors. It is perfectly fine in an article to reference to external documents, web pages, etc. and to illustrate the articles with uploaded files. If Otherwise Continent' Concept is such a (translated) copy of ИНОЙ_КОНТИНЕНТ then this text should be placed on the web space of the original project, and a Marspedia article may introduce the project. A link should be placed inside the Marspedia article, pointing to the external project or to documents inside the external project.
Please be not discouraged by those hints. Your edits here on Marspedia are not in vain, and I am sure, they can be restructured according to the rules with not too much effort. Again, I extraordinarily appreciate your work here. Hopefully, we can reach our goals together. Cheers! -- Rfc 20:33, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
  • Hi Rfc, it is very grateful for your recommendations. Work on references will be conducted, but I am afflicted that the template for footnotes on this wiki-portal does not work also necessary comments remain invisible. --PPark 21:06, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
Hi PPark, This is not exactly what I meant. I will try to put it more precise for you:
  1. The only allowed language on Marspedia is English. Please remove all Russian words from the article. I am going to nominate some of your uploaded files for deletion because of their Russian contents, e.g. file CashFlow OtherContin.gif, TotalProfit OtherContin.gif, etc. and because of their Cyrillic filenames, e.g. file ГечвоК морфология.gif , etc.
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  3. Please insert a copyright note on the page of your uploaded files, e.g. file Contingent OtherContin super.gif. You can find an example how to do that on the page of File:Raw food mix.jpg or File:76002main marshabitat.jpg.
  4. Please rework the article Otherwise Continent' Concept. The article must not be a pure translation of an existing Russian document. The article may be a mere introduction to that program.
If you have further questions, please do not hesitate to ask. I will help you doing the rework if you wish. -- Rfc 16:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
PPark, I can only assume that you are talking about "spin-up technology." Your current translation software is inadequate for the task of overcoming the Russian English language barrier. Please use better software so that we may communicate. -- PPark, я могу только предположить, что вы говорите о "спин-вверх технологии". Ваша текущая программа перевода является недостаточным для выполнения задачи по преодолению Русский Английский языковой барьер. Пожалуйста, используйте лучшее программное обеспечение, чтобы мы могли общаться. Этот перевод был сделать с помощью Google Translate.[3] -- PPark, я могу только предположить, что вы говорите о "спин-вверх технологии". Ваша текущая программа перевода является недостаточным для выполнения задачи по преодолению Русский Английский языковой барьер. Пожалуйста, используйте лучшее программное обеспечение, чтобы мы могли общаться. Этот перевод был WordMonkey сделать с помощью переводчика. -- Jarogers2001 00:36, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
PPark, please place the Russian version of your article Otherwise Continent' Concept at this url. I will attempt to read it using GoogleTranslate. We seem to be having issues with the language barrier. I apologize for any confusion. - PPark, пожалуйста, место русскую версию Вашей статьи Otherwise Continent' Concept на Этот URL. Я пытался читать его с помощью GoogleTranslate. Мы, кажется, возникают проблемы с языковым барьером. Я приношу свои извинения за причиненные неудобства. -- Jarogers2001 01:01, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, please follow to the Russian version of the Otherwise Continent' Concept--PPark 16:18, 18 March 2010 (UTC)


Contribution copyright status

You've made contributions to Marspedia between 1 January and 20 June 2012, a period where there is a problem with the rules for the main namespace, specifically Unknown "zemlyanstvo”. Do you officially allow your contributions to be released to the public domain? ...And by any chance are you the one who contributed anonymously to Autonomous planetary settlement from 174.31.99.237? Otherwise we may need to revert those helpful edits. -- Strangelv 02:17, 23 June 2012 (UTC)